DOCUMENT: College, Internet, Revolting

Rutgers Suspect Tweeted On Taping Scheme

Student wrote of watching roommate on webcam

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Dharun Ravi Twitter

SEPTEMBER 29--One of the Rutgers University students charged with illegally filming a fellow student having sex (and then transmitting it live on the Internet) last week posted a Twitter message indicating that he used a webcam to watch his roommate “making out with a dude.”

The roommate, Tyler Clementi, an 18-year-old Rutgers freshman, is believed to have jumped to his death last week off the George Washington Bridge.

In a September 19 post, Dharun Ravi, 18, reported that, “Roommate asked for the room till midnight. I went into molly’s room and turned on my webcam. I saw him making out with a dude. Yay.”

Ravi’s Twitter page has since been deleted, but, as seen here, a cached version of a portion of the account remains online. Click here to read a press release from the Middlesex County Prosecutor’s Office detailing its probe of the illegal taping.

Ravi and Molly Wei, 18, have both been charged with invasion of privacy for allegedly using a camera to capture two sexual encounters in a Rutgers dorm room, liaisons that were apparently broadcast live via iChat. They allegedly used the webcam to "view and transmit" live images of Clementi, who is referred to by investigators as an "18-year-old student in Piscataway," the location of Rutgers's main campus. Ravi and Wei are pictured above.

In Ravi’s final post, apparently made some time last week, he told his 148 Twitter followers, “Anyone with iChat, I dare you to video chat me between the hours of 9:30 and 12. Yes it’s happening again.”

Clementi, a 2010 graduate of Ridgewood High School in New Jersey, played the violin and listed a lyric from the song "I'll Never Fall In Love Again" on his Facebook page: "what do you get when you kiss a guy? You get enough germs to catch pneumonia..." Clementi is pictured at left. (3 pages)

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It is so nice to finally hear names and see faces behind this horrid atrocity. Being a gay male, and knowing the sensitivity of "coming out" to family and close friends, as you can imagine...my heart breaks for this poor soul who's name is Tyler. The only glimmer of happiness I have, is I KNOW karma. She never fails, and she is quite a bitch. When it hits these two even more than it is now. I will smile. Maybe even giggle. Yanno, I can see why these two are so immature and interested in others sex lives. As honest as I can be, they are both so ugly, I can forsee them "getting any" for themselves. R.I.P. Tyler.
These 2 jokers are no different from the peeping tom who was convicted of violating the privacy of the ESPN sportscaster when he spied on her hotel room without her consent or the old men who secretly videotape children and post them on the internet. These two WANTED TO WATCH 2 GUYS HAVING SEX and they thought sharing the video with other people on the web made it OK. Creepy.
I wonder how Dhuran would feel if,after "Bubba" welcomed him to prison,would like it aired on U-Tube?
You have no idea what you are talking about. the whole "Bubba" thing-- what is that? The people who get raped in prison are the people who snitch.
People who snitch get murdered. This Peeping Tom is getting raped. Believe that.
Why is everyone so shocked this happened? Haven't you heard of other gay violinists? C'mon.
Let me get this straight. Hilton and Kardashian made their careers because of 'secret' sex films. Clementi gets caught on a sex film, commits suicide, then people want to prosecute the web cam operators? For what? Isn't this sex behavior totally normal or what? Why would anyone believe anyone would be more than a bit embarrased about getting caught in the act? Sorry for Clementi but he is the one who did himself in - not the two people everyone seems upset about.......
If you don't understand why it could deeply embarrass or depress someone to have their intimate sexual encounters broadcast to anyone who wants to see, then you're a truly demented individual. Do you not expect any privacy in your life? Is there anything that you wouldn't want a particular person to see? If you had sex with a gorgeous woman, would you show the tape to your mother so she could see what a great job you did? Come on, man, think these things through.
Dharun and Molly did not have permission from both Tyler and his partner to film them and they had no right to show the tape on the internet. What they did to Tyler and his friend is no different from what peeping toms do who violate the privacy of their targets: whether one is peeping into the hotel room of an ESPN sportscaster or filming a roommate having sex or peeping at unknowing children in restrooms, if you do not have permission to do so, it is illegal. That's the law. Violating the privacy of another human being without his knowledge or consent is a criminal act. There is no justification for this kind of behavior and getting laughs about it is the worst reason to do so. If Dharun and Molly wanted to show sex on the internet, they should have filmed themselves. It's not the video of Tyler having sex that's a joke, it's these two fools who are so desperate for laughs and attention who have made themselves jokes as human beings.
http://www.theovernight.org This is troubling me so much. There has been times when we all feel despair We must reach out to those who fumble in darkness Jesus is the answer regardless of orientation or creed In him there is no darkness, his love trumps all. He will heal our hearts if only we let him. May Jesus meet you at the gate where you play your music eternally in heaven. RIP Tyler
Many THANKS to: Selfdad, cracker.baby, laurancyc99, rosey122, ESPECIALLY - bellestarr, AND, DanaM This type of behavior-mindset HAS to STOP! I wish Fred Phelps would get on here! Heaven forbid if he ever "gets in my face"! Don't think I could control myself! But - we do have freedom of speech. Sometimes it's not that pretty of a concept, but we can't pick and choose? I don't know the real answer, I just know and young man just died and it "appears" it was due to an unforgiving society. This was plain out HEINOUS!! ps - the comment about a web-cam in his cell was understandable and probably true. But - an "eye for an eye" is not how we do it here in the USA, at least not in the courts? The real world is a different story! Condolences to all involved. Jim & Lane
Maybe in whatever country Dharun Ravi and Molly Wei are from, it's OK to invade people's privacy and general acts like worthless scumbags. Let's send them back there. After we prosecute and punish them here. I hope Rutgers expelled them and kept the tuition.
Are you kidding? Everything about these two nitwits says "made in America." And luckily, because the victim was gay, they probably will be expelled and prosecuted. But, since they're both also minorities, it's unlikely they'll do any serious time. In America, we only throw the book at white male college students.
maybe from the same country you're from! what they did was horrible....but your comment...really!?!?!!!! *roll eyes*
The parents of deceased should sue, not only the two perps, but their parents, the school, and twitter and skype. The family of the man outed on Jenny Jones Show won a $25 million verdict from Warner Bros. for something not too much different. The perps should also spend the maximum allowed by law in jail. I've read too many posts on various sites excusing the clandestine filming of the deceased. The only way the excuse makers will realize that it's not open season on other's privacy is by seeing these two perp walked into jail and understanding that it could be them next.
I disagree. Why should they sue? This is another example of another problem in our culture- we sue left and right without examining the cause. How is throwing another 2 young adults in prison a solution? It is not like they pushed him off. He made the selfish decision to take his own life. I have little sympathy for people who commit suicide, regardless of the circumstances. The person was obviously manic depressive and that is the cause of why he jumped. It's sad, it makes you wonder so many people take the time to post things on social networking sites, how many people these days actually reach out to someone in real life that needs a friend? I think most sane people realize its immoral and illegal to invade someones privacy so I don't think sending these 2 people to prison will accomplish much, it will just ruin more lives. They should have a long community service period, probation, and fines. I believe our prisions should be reserved for those that commit violent crimes.
You have got to be kidding. You think these two perverts should get off without some significant punishment? They are directly responsible for a young man's death, even though they didn't actually push him off the bridge. Throwing the two in prison IS a solution. It not only punishes them for their crimes, it sets an example for others that this type of behavior will not be tolerated. What good does community service, probation and fines do? Nothing! And you think our prisons should be reserved for those who commit VIOLENT crimes. So every thief, drug dealer, arsonist and so forth should just go scott free with community service? That sure makes a lot of sense - NOT. And, I couldn't care less if it ruins their lives. They've already ruined the lives of the victim, his family and his friends. I'd even like to see them have to register as sex offenders for the rest of their lives. It would serve them right.
I am not saying what they did was right. And no, I don't believe we should incarcerate drug offenders. It is a waste. Violent crimes are the only reason people should be imprisoned. Arson is a violent crime. Thievery is a violent crime. I think these two will have a very hard road ahead of them. Frankly, I do not think using taxpayer money to incarcerate them will be of any benefit. They are not to blame for this man's death. The only one who is to blame is him and his mental disease (manic depression). Because they did something harmful to him, in your philosophy, would it be okay for him to kill them? Well, he committed murder- against himself. Suicide is a cowardly and selfish act. Did he care about his family or friends when he took the plunge? no, enough to update his status on facebook and say "sorry". He knew exactly what he was doing and usually people who commit suicide have been thinking of it for quite awhile. While this incident may have pushed him over the edge, whatever wrong was committed was not intended for him to die. These two should be punished according to their crimes. They should serve a long probation sentence, pay fines. Be expelled from Rutgers. They didn't murder this guy and it wasn't their intent. They were stupid and cruel but they aren't murderers and should be treated accordingly. I believe a jury will think the same way. Your comment is typical of people in our society who do not want to take accountability for their own actions the "he made me do it" defense doesn't work very well to me. It is very unfortunate, but Tyler took his own life-- and willingly. It is sad no one could have reached out to him and that he was surrounded by such people with bad intentions.
This is tragic all around. I pray for the family of all these young adults. I hope that this is a lesson to all of those who try to exploit peoples privacy by uses of technology. Facebook, Twitter, Myspace are a disease in our culture. There is no real connection with people anymore. You can barely go out with people wanting to "update" their status or take pictures. I am a christian, I do not believe that homosexuality is right, however I also believe that God is the only judge and people should be free to live how they want as long as they aren't hurting anyone. It is a shame that this young man chose to commit suicide. He was so young and had his whole life ahead of him and it looks like he had a bright future and was a very talented musician. Shame on these two people for recording his private activities. I don't think they should go to prison, please we have enough crowded prisons, but I do believe they will feel punishment each day as they realize when they are older exactly what part they played in this young man's death. Respect and get along with everyone regardless of sexual orientation, race, religion, etc. because we are all connected. Will pray for this young man's soul.
Well I am 64 years old came out WAY BACK in 1966 and if you think coming out is hard now try it almost 50 years ago..thats when guys were queers ..not just "gay" and people were VERY HOMOPHOBIC..although a lot are today too(maybe we should send them back to 1966..they'd fit right in). With all the technology today facebook twitter etc people have come to worship these things as "gods". anyone that would commit suicide over something so silly as this(has no sense of "self" number one). When I told my parents way back then they disowned me..I said thats fine..i dont need you..got my own apartment(so I could practice more) and just wrote them off for about a year til they called and wanted to get together..they never really did accept it but just tolerated it...my parents had loads of problems of their own which I was expected to just accept because they were "normal"..like cheating, drunken ness abusive ness etc. I have to say I have lived a great life..had every darn thing I wanted within reason and intend on living to 100 god willing. Ya gotta have a thick skin to get thru this world kids...better toughen up and dont let all this facebook crap get to you..thats not the real world ...its a bunch of crap.
Maybe we should web cam Ravi's first night in prison...what a doo cha bag...
Whether he was gay or not is not important. We have a young man and a young girl who pretended to be another person friend and the two of them were really his worst enemies. How can anyone be so two-faced? How can anyone be so deceitful and cruel? Those are my questions. I wonder what their parents think of their mean callous offspring? I hope they don't make excuses for this evil duo. Nobody in the world would want this done to them whether they are straight or not.
Here's what I don't get. There were more than 48 hours (I think) between the first incident (videochat, twitter, etc.) and the second attempted video/twitter that said it's happening again. And in between it seems that Tyler was reaching out for help. Obviously MANY people - students, RAs, Rutgers staff, friends - knew what was happening. Why didn't someone act proactively and reach out to Tyler to support him. It would have been easy to figure out that that's what he needed - some help, some support and friendship, someone to help him put this horrible experience in perspective? No one did that, it seems. WHY NOT? WHAT IS WRONG WITH EVERYONE??
SelfDad I'm a 52 year old gay man in NC who came out to his parents when he was 17, many years ago. My Mother spit at me and reminded me I was adopted! My Father said he didn't understand it but I was his Son and he loved me and all he wanted was for me to be happy. We buried Mom 1 year after I came out. She died of cancer at 57. My partner and I have been together for 32 years the end of October. He and my Dad were the best of friends. God bless you for your post. I clicked on your name on your post and saw you just signed up for this site. So did I. Simply so I could reach out to you and say "Thank You" for your post! You daughter is truly blessed as is your whole family! I just wish there were more parents like you and my Dad! Hope you see this and say hello to your daughter for us. Jim & Lane
If it wasn't so tragic, it would be amusing to read how many simpletons are assigning blame to technology, parents, even the victim of the egregious, cruel actions of the perpetrators. Granted, it was the final decision of the victim to end his own life, but I truly hope those two inhuman creeps pay dearly for their role.
I am a 45 year old father of four and my oldest daughter is 22 and gay. She was raised Catholic and attended Mass every week, her mother and I never knew of her attractions to same sex because our daughter kept herself busy with school, sports, music that we just thought she didn't have time for a relationship of any sorts. She came out during her Junior year of high school like it was no big deal, here it is "surprise"! It affected her mother more than myself, but I did say a few things that I will regret for the rest of my life. Later when we were alone I asked her how she knew she was gay and being the intelligent person that she is she replied "Well dad, when did you realize you weren't gay"? I told her "I never had to make that decision I just wasn't attracted to the same sex" she laughed and said "Well dad I never decided to to be gay I've just never been attracted to the opposite sex". With that single statement I now understood my daughter and was able to cope with her sexuality. All you parents with young kids, some of which will be gay I hope and pray you can see that in most cases it is not a decision to be gay or straight, don't make it harder on your child than it already is. This poor boy probably struggled with this his whole life and fell victim to a shame that was unwarranted and projected by a couple of morons with a webcam who's parents obviously never taught them that just because something is different doesn't necessarily make it wrong it just makes it different. The religious zealots that shout damnations upon the sinners have never truly heard of felt the word of God..ignore them. There is no greater heart or kinder spirit than that which dwells in my daughter, she is an incredible person who continues to make me proud to be her father! I will pray for this boy and his family that they can embrace his memory and love him for what he was. I will also pray for the two morons that they too can find peace and be forgiven for their actions.
At first I thought these 2 people were a lot more to blame. Now I feel that if you use the school grounds for your own personal use, there are are consequences. I assume the school had a policy against sex in the dorm even if it were just kissing. I feel they are all to blame equally. They are all serious offenses. Unfortunately the dude chose to take his own life, but that was his choice. That is my opinion.
It says they were have "sex". I'm assuming it was more than just kissing and probably very graphic and embarrassing. Filming them and broadcasting it carries a lot more blame than engaging in intimate contact in the (assumed) privacy of his room, even if he was violating a university policy. That is MY opinion.
We need to remember that the video-taping culprits are teenagers whose brains are not yet fully developed. This fact makes them more prone to engaging in stupid and outrageous behavior, but it doesn't make them dangerous criminals or murderers. In addition, the victim of this prank was already somewhat disturbed and unstable for him to take his own life. The prank was simply the straw that broke the camel's back. This doesn't change the fact that it was a mean thing to do. But, in our modern technology-driven society, it's not particularly unusual for teens to make videos of activities that are meant to be private and post them on the internet without a lot of thought concerning the consequences. I feel sorry for the parents and friends of the teen who took his own life, but destroying the lives of two more immature teens isn't going to make things better. They will always have to live with the knowledge that they pushed him over the edge, even thought that was not their intention.
You have to wonder if Dharun Ravi was so disgusted with this behavior why he was so interested in watching it whenever it took place. People don't pursue viewing behavior that they find offensive. The images obviously were of great interest to him and he mocked and laughed at them and his roommate in an attempt to cover up his own repressed gay sexual fantasies and preferences. I hope that if he ever does act on his preferences that the people around him give him the respect as a human being that Tyler deserved from him. (But then again -- maybe the punishment in prison will be Dharun's dream come true as he becomes someone's prison bitch.)
Did he video him taking it in a bad place, or was he just kissing?
Also blame a generation of people masquerading as so evolved that has proven to be nothing more than a superficial mark in history obsessed with gossip, celebrity and technology for the sole purpose of entertainment. It's sick and addicted and we're feeding it.
Clementi clearly had issues, hell he even looks outa sorts in the pics in this article. The roommates filming him were wrong, but he killed himself, he's the one who clearly was disturbed.
Your in a school, there is no such thing as privacy. Give those two a medal for showing just what a pervert the very weak twit was. If that is what he wanted to be then why not come out and say it and flaunt it? No he wanted to stay in the closet, in other words he was so insecure that he didn't know what the hell he was. Well he's gone, so what? The only people that will miss him are maybe the relatives and then for only 6 months, after that, they won't know his name.
First off, it seems as though you are in need of some schooling because you don't know the appropriate use of your and you're. In any case, your comment is the height of being ignorant. How many people at eighteen years old actually know who they are? There's no such thing as privacy if you are in school-- really? Well, I beg to differ because privacy is an inalienable human right. Those "two" are the real perverts here because Tyler did ask for privacy until midnight and his roommate apparently agreed. They should not be given a medal but should be expelled from the school and their futures are already ruined. How can you talk so terribly about a dead man.."he's gone, so what?" Are you really that much of an imbecile? Have you ever heard about respecting the dead? Obviously, you have never lost anyone close to you. The memories will never fade for a mother or father who has lost their child.
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Has anyone prayed for this young man and his family.They raised him for 18 years only to have him murdered by two cretins who obviously have no moral compass.
I have, and I do. The fact that that our 18 year olds find this behavior acceptable is beyond words. I personally thought that we were beyond this. What happened to the parents?
Sanjaya and ChoChoSan need to be expelled and sent to prison. They still have their lives but shouldn't.
For "fuinthea" (and any who would follow it) - EXACTLY who are the "we" to whom you refer? HUMANITY is 100% of the world's population. A certain percentage of that 100% are in prison because they ARE criminals. Does your post speak to race or humanity here? Well, that's obvious. And if doing something stupid in this "land of the free" means you think there should be no repercussions for stupid acts, maybe you should try to find a place that is free of those stupid repercussions. Perhaps then you could be free ...
I repeat Testicular D .Please see a psychiatrist quickly.Your skewed morality is a threat to us all.Remember Isaia V"Woe be unto him who calls evil good and good evil".You obviously don't believe in God but He knows where you live and your belief/disbelief is totally irrelevant.See ya on judgement day-but I'm afraid you'll be over by the wailers and gnashers of teeth about to be cast in the outer darkness.Go ahead and plug your ears and stamp your feet and call me an irrational Diest but you've been warned.I suggest you look up the parable of Lazarus and the rich man.It was too late for him but you still have a chance but I'd bet $100,000 you won't take it. .You are homosexual stormtrooper Nazi and a very dangerous person with no empathy for human beings other than those who share your twisted malformed ideology.You should be ashamed of your lack of compassion for this young man and his family.All that matters is your agenda.Are you even a human being?Or a pure idealogue?You disgust me and any person with a heart.
I'll be happy to be on the jury and send them both to prison. Then they will understand what it is like to be spied on too!
Tyler's suicide was a hate crime against gay people. His low self-esteem was evidence of ho-mo-phobia, probably a result of parental abuse and indoctrination into gay-hate. Molly and Dharum were simply trying to educate the Rutgers community about perfectly normal ho-mo-sexual activities occurring on campus. They were trying to dispel the ignorance which breeds fear driven hate. Tyler was already past help - and he chose to symbolically murder all gays with his misguided act of self-hate. At any rate, Tyler should be tried in absentia for his hate-crime against all gays. His suicide was an act of cowardice, chosen over living openly as a proud, practicing ho-mo-sexual. His parents, who inculcated the hateful anti-gay philosophy in their son, as well as a disregard for Earth-friendly practices (he left an unattended computer running, rather than turn it off - which would also have deactivated that webcam) should be tried as co-conspirators, then sentenced to life in prison, where they then can participate in the very activity they taught their son to despise.
Testicular D .Please see a psychiatrist quickly.Your skewed morality is a threat to us all.Remember Isaia V"Woe be unto him who calls evil good and good evil".You obviously don't believe in God but He knows where you live and your belief/disbelief is totally irrelevant.See ya on judgement day-but I'm afraid you'll be over by the wailers and gnashers of teeth about to be cast in the outer darkness.Go ahead and plug your ears and stamp your feet and call me an irrational Diest but you've been warned.I suggest you look up the parable of Lazarus and the rich man.It was too late for him but you still have a chance but I'd bet $100,000 you won't take it.
...I meant "fear driven hate". At any rate, Tyler should be tried in absentia for his hate-crime against all gays. His suicide was an act of cowardice, chosen over living openly as a proud, practicing h0-m0-sexual. His parents, who inculcated the hateful anti-gay philosophy in their son, as well as a disregard for Earth-friendly practices (he left an unattended computer running, rather than turn it off - which would also have deactivated that webcam) should be tried as co-conspirators, then sentenced to life in prison, where they then can practice the very activity they taught their son to despise.
Tyler's suicide was a hate crime against gay people. His low self-esteem was evidence of ***phobia, probably a result of parental abuse and indoctrination into gay-hate. Molly and Dharum were simply trying to educate the Rutgers community about perfectly normal ***sexual activities occurring on campus. They were trying to dispel the ignorance which breeds hate driven fear. Tyler was already past help - and he chose to symbolically murder all gays with his misguided act of self-hate.
Phobia? Maybe you should get over yourself, huh? What do you call someone who hates pedophiles, pedophobics? Seriously, dude, the guy was not responsible for the homosexual's death. Fact is, the average homosexual lifespan is 50 years... src: www.physiciansforlife.com. Homosexuals carry 33 diseases and are banned from donating blood in America [and most countries]... src: fda, cdc.gov. Maybe by supporting these depraved individuals you are actually helping them commit suicide in your own way, did you ever think about that?
"Not a single piece of scientific evidence supports the ban," said Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass.The lawmakers stressed that the science has changed dramatically since the ban was established in 1983 at the advent of the HIV-AIDS crisis. Today donated blood must undergo two different, highly accurate tests that make the risk of tainted blood entering the blood supply virtually zero, they said. The senators' letter noted that in March 2006, the American Red Cross, America's Blood Centers and the American Association of Blood Banks reported to an FDA-sponsored workshop that the ban "is medically and scientifically unwarranted." When will you people realize that this disease affects everyone not just gay men. In fact, heterosexual women are the fastest growing group of people to contract and transmit HIV. Calling someone depraved because of their sexual orientation is a bit harsh. There are plenty of respectable gay couples who are living lives that are far from "depraved". The site you gave is nothing more than a right wing agenda. It is people like you who give REAL CHRISTIANS a bad name. Real Christians respect peoples rights, they believe in love and leave the judgments up to GOD. While the bible says homosexuality is wrong, the bible also says do not judge, lest ye be judged. The native americans believed that the spirit is bisexual and gays are more spiritually evovled than others. Quit spreading these blatant lies about gays- they do not carry 33 diseases, and I'm sure that many a gay people live way beyond the ripe old age of 50. Ask Elton John. The FDA is full of crap, they are in the business of medicating people and still refuse the scientific proof that medical marijuana helps patients with AIDS, CANCER, etc. The FDA needs a rehaul! I think we would all be better off. But of course, they want those pharmaceutical drugs out there, if they were TRUTHFUL about marijuana all those pharmaceutical companies would be SOL.
This poor soul was in the closet and NO ONE has the right to out him.Homosexuality is an abberation which affects less than 1% of the population.And don't give me any discredited Kinsey studies who himself was a homosexualist.This poor kid suffered from powerful same sex attraction and his "roomie" and the moron chick thought it was hysterical to expose his secret to whoever was watching.I'm sure it was posted on the inet and is there forever.He KILLED himself out of shame you morons for three possible reasons:1)he was experimenting2)Obviously in the closet,3)No one and I mean no one has the right to invade anyone's privacy,especially sexual. The lives of these two morons are ruined.They will be expelled.They will do jail time.They will be sexually assaulted in jail/prison especially by same-sex attracted prisoners to humiliate them and give them a taste of what that poor boy got.In this electronic age it's EASY to track people,find out where they live,advise prosoective employers of the crimes they committed.They should be put on a sexual offenders list.In a word they are F**ked.They'll get involuntary manslaugter at best.When Ravi gets out one will be able to turn a Harley Davidson around in his a**hole.The young lady better get used to "tossing salad". There has been enough publicity about hazing other young people to death and "a youthful thoughtless prank"ain't going to have any resonance in the court room they attend.The leftists will be in a real quandry,who do they support a young possibly gay man who was hazed to death or two minorities.If they were two white boys it would be"off with their n*ts!"And 90 percent of you hypocrites would be cheering them on.
I agree no one had the right to this but you are in essence, advocating rape of the two young adults who filmed him. You think that no one in the world makes mistakes? These two did make a huge immoral and illegal mistake, for which they should pay, but they did not commit murder or rape and how dare you say that they should be raped. No one should ever be raped whether they are in prison or not. You say they should be tracked for the rest of their life and their future employers should be notified? I'm sure this incident will make them infamous and they will have a very hard road ahead of them. Unfortuantely, it is people like you who remind me of snitches and those are the people who get their cherry popped in prison. You wouldn't last a minute.